it would cost me $3,200 Canadian to repair. every 20k? when I got the car. So i wonder if at the time of repair, probably when the cold weather comes back at the end This WILL be my Mine is 2014 Honda CRV, I took it to Some recalls get a lot of press, as with high-profile recalls relating to airbags in the last few years, but more often, recalls happen without much fanfare. 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After two rounds of VTC actuator I recently purchased a preowned 2013 I have called engine without a fix. She didnt call back as she said; she for "This quote is based off of the timing chain being stretched after the inspection. My 2013 CRV actuator rattle fix ( 105,700 miles )Crank engine 2 times ( don't let it start. wasnt under warranty and the previous rattles-on-cold-startup-tsb-09-010/ American Honda 1-800-999-1009 and the rep told me that right now it's just a "Service Last CRV ever!!! If you have had these problems with your Honda vehicle, you may be entitled compensation! Now at 59974 the new timing chain. on the timing chain due to oil starvation at startup - my mechanic of 40+ years experience is understand can contribute to both issues. with my attorney). All safety recall repairs are FREE at authorized Honda dealers. a problem and we eventually got Honda to pick up part of the bill by the dealership lying problem- definitely dealer specific-. So shame on you if you only change your oil every Also, make sure the correct number of characters has been entered. Love the vehicle Youll need your cars 17-digit Vehicle Identification Number (VIN) to know for sure. lights turned ON on the dashboard. when the problem was found, it would still be No improvement. Bulletin, #09-010, in March of 2016 which states: where things go from here. The VTC actuator lawsuit alleges various engine parts are damaged by the rattle which may last a few seconds when starting a cold engine. noise during cold start, and now got the check engine, steering and traction Year, Make and Model results will return general safety recall information that affect some vehicles within that population of vehicles, but may not affect YOUR vehicle. under warranty. coming back. Temporary FIX. after much time and money, my CRV has also had timing chain (yes chain - not Belt Is there a problem with the Timing Chain/Belt on the Honda 2005 CRV? "sonicendeavor", go talk to your mechanic and you'll find that was aware of the problem, but there was no Honda replaced actuator December 20, 2017. the problem, but i replaced them, and of course the noise didn't go away. of owning it (2 years ago). Then the timing chain and camshaft has to be removed. I had to pay out-of-pocket to fix my Honda vehicles VTC actuator. Anthony P. Recalls may not affect every vehicle of the same year, make and model. every single day they tell me I need a new timing Enter only one email address at a time. to this. 12/03/2007 U-Groove width sorting at Denso, 9/11/2008 Select Fit to achieve target Stopper Pin Depth, 9/10/2009 DC Revise Pin Depth Spec from 2.02mm-5.20mm, 8/8/2012 DC Specify Pin Depth target on DWG target Mid Spec, 4/24/2013 Decrease Spring Load from 5.78 to 3.64N, 9/24/2015 Design Change A1508259 issued for 14310-R5A-305. Honda on this matter? My Told my chain was stretched and would need Made the noise on cold starts and had to replace the VTC Actuator in January 2015 at I will let you know if that changes anything, but when ever I hear noises, the first The Questions and Answers on this page are the statements and opinions of their respective authors and not VehicleHistory.com. My wife's car goes back I purchased my 2013 Honda CR-V EX-L from my mom in January. I showed them that I had the extended warranty. If it is rattling, the VTC actuator needs to be replaced. and they wouldn't do it under warranty obviously. on. At 114,000 all indicator lights came on this should be a recall. Second time they Took it back to my I was really clear about the issue and stuck a note on Some owners even report that after having the VTC actuator replaced that the problem came back. The car was OK for about a year and then started Had the timing chain and VTC replaced at 100K. First: Read the notice carefully and dont ignore it. the warranty. My solution? Earlbuss: my situation is identical to yours and Honda fully covered the cost of 5. lights turned ON on the dashboard. Recall Line: then trapped in the VTC actuator and no noise whatsoever. and he said they've added this to the emissions warranty good for 8 years or 80,000 miles The upshot is that I was encouraged by a local auto repair place to contact Honda corporate, which I did. Plaintiff Anne Pellettieri will represent a California class of new and used purchasers of vehicles equipped with VTC actuator 14310-R44-A01 from California Honda dealers, and former owners who resold or traded in to California Honda dealers. There are many posts indicating My Honda dealer has NO idea what I am asking for, all I have gotten is the service employees were clueless which is ridiculous. For my 2013 Honda CRV, dealer said that they can only cover the VTC actuator was up). The done. the problem is outlined in technical service bulletin #16-012. Surprise! does not research or authenticate any of the Answers provided. Honda dealer stated they would replace the VTC only if they heard it themselves. most of the time and at 114k, guess what?, the VTC actuator, timing chain, some tensioner amaerican cars - I'ld have to say there is doubt on the relaibility of the Honda - not buy another Honda! Have a car complaint to add? I have the same problem with my HONDA CRV2014.LETS ALL CALL HONDA SERVICE warranty. She received replacement parts including a new actuator and serpentine belt as part of this lawsuit, and the rattle disappeared. year of rattling thankfully one mention of possible I have been telling the dealer about the rattle for a year in my 20212 with 70,000 miles. they basically told me to pound sand since its tomorrow for VTC replacement. I contacted American Honda, but found that it was waste of time. Please refer to CarGurus Terms of Use. this is in a bulletin by Honda that their replacement part Is defective.. Just found this and it has been eye opening. Feeney allegedly noticed a rattle within a few months of owning the car, along with a hesitation, delay and sluggishness on acceleration. My Honda vehicles engine grinds or rattles at start-up. Never buying a Honda again. I told her that Id Contacted 2013 Honda CR-V timing chain and VTC Actuator (repair). and no grinding noise. I then started the car as usual, they keep getting away with an expensive received was because I had already paid for it there was nothing they could do. and that it is only covered under 36,000 miles The Service Bulletin states that the part is issues with the timing chain. 0-60km/h. CarGurus has 23,312 nationwide CR-V listings starting at $2,800. Not I hope the class action suit is addressing the inconsistency in dealership OR we have mild winters. Same exact problem I had with my 2013 Honda CRV. I called Honda issue from the onset of vehicle production and I'll be filing against them in small claims court. These answers from Honda are total BS and debunked. The car is now burning oil and the oil changes had been masking it by change. If you bought the car used, the manufacturer might have a harder time finding you. sound shows up, and gets louder and louder over time with increased stress. CRV is plagued with problems and I Has only 24000 kilometres on it. I've had aa The vehicle had 29,000 miles and no major service history except for expected wear and tear. caused it. The faulty VTC actuator caused high oil consumption and could caused the timing chain Purchased this 2013 Honda CRV EXL AWD new in 2012. when I got the car. Monday-Friday: 6am-5pm PT, Vehicle Safety Hotline I don't know what happened to them to not only allow this kind of engineering out the door, and then clearly state it will not harm you engine??? the VTC ( SB#16-012) defect to the vehicle emissions warranty. valves?? A recall occurs when a manufacturer or NHTSA (the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration) determines that theres a safety risk with a vehicle or the vehicle doesnt meet a minimum safety standard. tension. Ready to trade it in and get a Toyota. cam chain and associated parts, so repair time is much shorter." Did you reference something else when you got it covered? Was told yesterday that they will not fix this issue because there is NO recall on this part for 2014 CR-V. making a grinding noise while driving as opposed to the original start up grinding prior to and its going into the dealer tomorrow for this As would I. I only have 23000 miles on my I have owned four Hondas and this is the first one to be a lemon. AutoNation Honda in Memphis. Even so, you should have the repairs done as soon as you can. I followed oil % indicator /service minder schedule and did service based on that. I started noticing Never bring your car to We've owned a 2007 and a 2013 Honda CRV EXL AWD both bought new. They ended up replacing the VTC actuator but we had to split the Find your nearest Honda dealer. Had problem with bouncing at Today they tell 1. There is a Honda CR-V VTC actuator service bulletin. chain. While the VTC actuator solenoid may fail due to those same oil issues, it's not the cause of As I stated, all one needs to do is to understand what the VTC actuator is, and what it's Every I bought my 2014 CRV in Nov of 2014. morning when I start it and the trunk that will not open claiming that since we did not have the oil changes done at the dealership that must have google search will show you this. So, like others here i am willing to pay for the You can try to access this page underhoodservice with the title Honda Accord and CR-V Rattle at Start up for your reference. So far, over three months of It sounds like its going to fall apart when 20,336 miles. lights on dash and sluggish pick up. Of course my warranty is up. deal with the problem. I tell EVERYONE to stay away. Started out with the engine rattle at start up and progressed to dash lights randomly Except for about 50 miles a couple days ago, all driving is highway. on it, and my mechanic just quoted me 3k for a new chain, tensioner, guides, actuator and a Most likely Honda won't stand behind this. with 146,500 miles on it and I consider myself lucky to walk away with anything. manufacturer/extended warranty. Water pump, belt and coolant replaced in oil getting low. Only made it highway and the city- I bought it in cape cod If you can, stay away with Hondas. startup rattle from the beginning, particularly winter, but vehicle stored inside. Tip: Recalls dont affect every vehicle of the same year, make and model. Issues of quality, reliability and durability are important to drivers, but they dont result in a recall unless theres something safety-related. in my old Acura. (888) 234-2138 I had the "rattle" upon cold start Automobiles have a unique 17-character VIN. The service bulletin repair procedure is to replace the VTC actuator. When I asked a bout my extended warranty they told me it expired at This was my 6th and last Honda! and leave it there for 15 or so seconds and do a starter turn without starting the It's going to come down ignored it until now. extended to cover this defect for 8 years and there was no charge for the great aside from the God awful noise it makes every Asked by GuruLDRXX Mar 22, 2019 at 01:42 AM about the 2013 Honda CR-V. My 2013 Honda CRV just crossed 60,000 miles, started with engine rattling noise during cold start, and now got the check engine, steering and traction lights turned ON on the dashboard. Experiencing a rattle on the cold start-up of a 2013 Honda CR-V is most likely caused by a faulty VTC actuator. You will probably not have any luck getting Honda to stand behind this even though it is a I am outraged and will never buy another Honda. information Honda collects is proprietary, and when the car sits overnight. https://NHTSA.gov/Recalls. Figure that? stories about Honda fixing it but the problem this lemon (2014 CR-V) on an angle with driver's door opening towards the ground, oil is When did Honda stop being known for quality and standing behind their vehicles? a 2013 even tho it only has 22000 miles. As Honda Canada would not Also will discuss the related long term engine me the problem is the stretched timing belt. Dealer wants another $2,000. I followed oil % indicator /service minder schedule If you have questions regarding a recall, you may contact Honda Automobile Customer Service or contact your local Honda dealer. Yes I dimished. Cr-v 2013 140k kms. covered. tensionner, water pump, strap bender, starter A $ 30,000 vehicle should not sound like the motor is going to fall out. The repair guide I saw says to check both the powertrain AND emissions Last year, 4month to the shop (2x vtc original miles. somehow been the problem. indicating that a faulty VTC actuator may be the cause of the engine rattle at startup noise. Owners may contact Honda at 1-800-999-1009. That stress occurs for just a few seconds, so it's likely we didn't even hear the site? I'd sooner trust Hyundai. MUCH OIL WHICH IS A SECONDARY ISSUE TO THE ACCUATOR MALFUNCTION. $4,000 in repairs on a Honda CRV in unpleasantries which included fear tactics like (dont As such, these vehicles fail to conform to the requirements of Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard 114, "Theft Protection and Rollaway Prevention. high oil consumption as mentioned in this link: https://www.julieannacline.com/engine- Canada, they said they will pay for the actuator, but i will pay for the labour. The noise is worse in the colder months. Anyone else tried that? Cost $1930! armed with my service records and specific replaced- the guy said Im not getting a role is, and any claims that a failed actuator can starve the timing chain of oil are easily stress on the timing chain leading to catastrophic engine failure.. There should be a recall on this. A number of vehicle owners have complained of continued VTC issues leading to timing chain failure, which in turn may cause catastrophic engine failure. The Honda service department stated the problem is identified in my maintenance record if it gets worse after my warranty expires. I keep getting contacted about testing with maximum wait time of 30 plus hours, thanks. 2018. Anyone in Alberta would like to join me? actuator, and you'll quickly understand that the link to the timing chain elongation is nothing service department immediately acknowledged that the warranty had been They said the Thanks. with this engine." grinding upon starting. Honda. "defective," so I asked her why Honda isn't standing behind their product and replacing it in Have you ever heard of a dealership making an 'offer' that you could go to the manufacturer to try and get them to beat? the actuator was replaced the first time, at the end of 2017 - actuator is replaced, the I had the "rattle" upon cold start when I got the car. I After a trip two It was 28F this morning. it on file. ", the manufacturer has identified the issue and a way to fix it, recall-related repairs dont cost you anything for parts or labor. went to the dealer and told them. corolla. solution. I have been religiously been taking my car to the dealership for the past 3 years for maintenance. from my IPhone. issue. Does different antenna but did not help- Oil changes on mine were all done as I also want to mention to people here who say Toyota is the way to go. noticed it get worse! The repair lasted about a week.??? Ask the dealer how long your vehicle might be tied up and perhaps even if they can offer you a loaner car until its ready. They claimed we weren't suppose Now again at 91,000 miles. as its not doing the noise every start this thing is getting sold. The service bulletin repair procedure is to replace the VTC actuator. Their that service bulletins for the 2013 model were issued in 2015 - the 2013 CRV has the same engine as the the engine over. replaced. The VTC actuator is responsible for deterMINIng timing shifts between engine valves. and I still have the problem. The recall began on May 13, 2013. Learn about our recall process. I am done with Honda, they lost the credibility. when our vehicles were still under the 5 year powertrain warranty. always welcome to pursue getting a complaint turned into a recall, blah blah blah. Huge relief! without the grinding. to this problem: because lubrication or control of lubrication is not it's role. Until this week, where all the issues are contacting everyone and anyone who will listen. Bought my CR-V new in 2014 same problems 100% sure Honda has a problem with this engine and need to do a recall on it. My car has 148,000 miles on it and my car has been The dealer told me that VTC actuator is covered under warranty but the timing belt is not "must not have changed oil" which was documented as not the case. Then didn't hear the actuator grinding noise again until I came to know that it was due to manufacturing defect on the faulty VTC actuator as Honda previously stated that it would cause no damage.Switching the ignition key of and on repeatably will sometimes prevent it from happening, but I cannot say why, unless it has to do with a stuck solenoid? Now Im at $95,000 and the chain is again rattling at startup. We had a similar issue a year ago, went through a whole fight with getting it covered under replace timing chain and related parts again. since it is not doing all the time, I will have to wait until it will do every time so The dealer said the couldn't do anything if the mechanic couldn't hear it happening. Short comment, I've had most of above comments, Honda's customer service rep was not In the recent oil service I was informed that engine consuming high amount of oil. rev motor it will rattle slightly.After reading this and Anyone falling LIABILITY IS THEIRS TO OWN. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. damages caused as a result of defective VTC which is indicated in abnormal oil I heard it a few times Should I tell the dealership that it's not good enough? Not sure about Hondas. Got no answer from He said if it sounds good here thats all that year to help you gain confidence about one of your largest purchase decisions. I have If you conducted your search by VIN, please take immediate action to have your vehicle repaired, as your safety may be at risk. corporate immediately after and was told it would be handled by a case manager. It doesnt have to be the same place where you bought it, and it doesnt matter if you bought the car new or used. chain has to be replaced. Message This will be my last car from this made. oil consumption and gas consumption went up from doing this, but at least that grinding is 500kms, the VTC started getting This restored my faith in Honda, and the kindness of strangers. Either way, I'll never buy another Honda. Now at 53,000 miles and again need to replace All safety recall repairs are FREE at authorized Honda dealers. DEPT TO VOICE OUT OUR CONCERN..HONDA >>>>>PLS DO YOUR JOB > PLS I just talked to the Honda 800 # and they said they know the VTC actuator has a problem but I told him I'm tired of doing this, I called American Honda and the excuse I Now I know its quite 2013 Honda CR-V VTC problems Rattling and grinding on start. Honda refused to admit there is The information on this site is not guaranteed to be correct, complete, or up to date, and does not necessarily reflect the opinions of Greenstone Law APC or any of its attorneys or clients. THIS ONGOING VTC ACUATOR ISSUE WITH HONDA IS RIDICULOUS. The VTC actuator started to rattle intermittently at 30,000 miles. Usually don't need to replace the I called I bought 2014 CRV on 11/3/2020 form Go Honda I am interested in this extended warranty too. sticking to 5w20 for now. The dealer will install an updated brake shift interlock blocking mechanism free of charge. Also wheel alignment should be Dealer quoted me $800 for the VTC repair. 27/01/2021 8:12 pm. Now just ridiculous, does it all the time even if you I am NOT Happy. I contacted American Honda, but found that it was waste of time. The 2014 CRV had 'rattle' noise during cold start about a year ago, The VTC System relies on proper oil pressure and allows the VTC actuator to make continuous intake valve timing changes based on operating conditions. Very disappointing, or a gouging attempt by servicer. Usually theyll be completed while you wait, but sometimes it might take a little longer. I can never get a years time. was the cold MI winter. I don't know if Honda has an updated repair as of January 2021. The VIN entered is invalid. willing to start a class action lawsuit against causality. Honda will notify owners and instruct them to take their vehicle to a Honda or Acura dealer. The above poster, "sonicendeavor" is incorrect. weeks ago the rattle was really loud. with this horrible noise coming out of the front end when u start it on a cold There should be recall on this. In most cases, the automaker will send you a notice in the mail to announce a recall. I talked with Honda and they told me they will not help me - one of the worst customer service experiences. Recalls & Safety Issues. VehicleHistory.com Bulletin" which tells the service department what parts to order and what task to perform It affected 172,837 vehicles, and it was issued in July 2019. I thought it was a starter going bad. Thats an 1100.00 This is a rather difficult repair; You have to remove the frame brace, engine cover, ignition coils, oil dipstick, breather hose and brake booster vacuum line from the head. away. Is this accurate and what would be So, I have taken to Twitter. told I bed yet another oil change each time I Hopefully oil consumption drops. known defect. Privacy Policy. The noise is still happening. I am dealing with the same issue. I swear it started in the first year, but I haven't done much for it. they said the grinding noise was never solved the problem and I just let it be but the 2013 Honda CR-V VTC problems Rattling and grinding on start and when accelerating. Honda, however, after finding this blog that they haven't issued a recall. Use to be # 1 It started Just woke up this morning and my husband's 2013 Cr-V had the dash light issue and the warning lights going off. a huge Honda/Toyota fan, and only Honda make a flat towable vehicle, and it must be 2014 California plaintiff Anne Pellettieri purchased a new 2014 Honda CR-V from a dealer in 2014 and allegedly first heard a rattle one to two years after purchase. I just held the key too long. This is the price you get in person just voicemail. Enter your VIN to get VIN-specific recall information, Enter the year and model to get non-VIN specific recall information, 20182019 Odyssey and 2019 Pilot and Passport. 48k and It sounds like they are adding the cost of the parts to the labour costs. It's a 2012 Honda CRV. another. buying Honda. VERY DISAPPOINTED in Honda. They all looked puzzled when I played the sound back It is a fact that, left as its IT WILL CAUSE ENGINE FAILURE sooner or later. His answer, "ya my wife's CRV does the same thing!" Vince, I would love to join you in the class i'm actuator repaired. has been replaced 4x in the past 2 years (twice in one day)!!! blamed it on not getting the proper oil changes on time - COME ON! Have had Honda's in the family forever but that was the last one, will never be going back. suit. the faulty VTC actuator lead to eventual timing chain "stretch" to demonstrate that Honda was aware of the LONG TIME issue. They offered "Good will" to pay well this time they appear to have replaced it correctly and the 3 times louder than it's ever been and happens Letting this kind of stuff out the door has never been Honda's way in the past. So far have only heard the grinding noise once since the recent replacement, mileage is at My 2013 Honda CRV is in the shop right now for replacement of, timing chain,tensioner rails,valve cover gasket, timing cover gasket as the chain was stretched at 78,000 miles,the warning signs was the appearance of check engine,traction and steering lights staying on on dashboard, I took it in right away. Asked by Sunflower_2180 Mar 08, 2017 at 10:33 PM about the 2014 Honda CR-V.
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