A later study at the end of the Second World War would show that approximately 54% of bullets which hit the M1 of servicemen in Europe and the Pacific failed to penetrate the helmet. = International Molded Plastics - Massachusetts. helmet Bowl-shaped steel helmet showing remains of crude dappled camouflage colours of light brown and mid-green on an apple green field. dailyinfo[6]=' 345190 Sapper Forrest A. KNOWLES Canadian Signal Corps who died 06/03/1921 REIDS MILLS CEMETERY Canada ' i read threads forum about brodie he If it's a highly desirable unit it drives the price up. var daym=mydate.getDate() While British and American helmets may be painted similar colors the finishes on the two type of helmet differ. Originally this was a hard-hat like support which was designed to fit inside the steel cap, offering comfort, support and an extra layer of protection. Early Mark I helmet initially had thisfeature only to be discontinue in mid 1916. ", You need to be a member in order to leave a comment. if (month<10) month="0"+month U.S. M2 82nd Airborne Pathfinder Camo. Manufacturing Co - Philadelphia - Pennsylvania. It could resist a shot from a pistol fired at it from point blank range. dailyinfo[2]=' 8020 Serjeant Charles POOLE "C" Coy. 14th Bde. It is a much heavier and more robust design. in the late 1930s - 1941 and the M1 helmet and liner was phased in 1941 - 1942. I need help identifying some markings on the second world war brodie. dailyinfo[30]=' B/469 Worker Charles BARLOW Australian Munition Worker who died 30/01/1918 NORTH SHEEN CEMETERY United Kingdom ' 309.60 Buy It Now. Powered by Invision Community, (In no particular order) In conclusion, the M1 can probably be designated as the most successful combat helmet ever made. Generally soldiers were still being issued cloth caps or leather headgear of a kind which offered little or no protection from modern artillery and the shrapnel which sprayed out from it. 354.85 Buy It Now. In the case of the British Mark I there is typically a letter followed by a slash followed by another letter. The chinstrap bails on a British Mark I and a U.S. P17 are of a completely different design. stands for General Steel Wares of Toronto, who made helmets from 1940 to 1942. I have looked on a couple brodie specialist websites and cant find anything. Whether it be a small antique shop, militaria show or even an online auction. Thanks for the info lads. Leinster Regiment who died 27/02/1918 JERUSALEM MEMORIAL Israel and Palestine (including Gaza) ' were refurbished and modified with a new leather liner and web chinstrap. O Gauge garden model railway Leatherwear Co of America - Brooklyn - New York. I would say the paintwork on your helmet is original. What I know so far, He was injured in France in 1940 so was 'dropped' from active service. M1 Helmet Identification; Shipping; Sizing; 1-877-862-5245; TOP POTS - DEDICATED TO M-1 HELMET PRESERVATION. Brodie helmets - How to identify By depaor01 4 January , 2013 in Uniforms,Cap Badges and Insignia depaor01 Old Sweats 2.2k Location:Dublin, Ireland Posted 4 January , 2013 Could somebody post a beginner's guide to what exactly a Brodie helmet is, if there was any other type of British helmet in WWI, and how they differed from WW2? My M1915 adrian helmet from the belgium army and british Brodie Mk1 helmet used from the USA, Haller's Blue Army Soldier: Uniform Identification. Both manufacturers stamped their helmets with a two to four-digit number followed by a letter, but Schlueter also stamped an 'S' beneath their heat stamps. The Brodie helmet is a steel combat helmet designed and patented in London in 1915 by Latvian inventor John Leopold Brodie (Latvian: Leopolds Janno Braude).A modified form of it became the Helmet, Steel, Mark I in Britain and the M1917 Helmet in the US. The U.S. produced over 2.7 million Brodie helmets by the end of the war. Hi Tom, welcome to the forum. As for the number/letter code, that is the code for the manufacturer and the manufacturer's lot number. Thanks Leon21. dailyinfo[20]=' 10259 Private Charles BUCHANAN 1st Bn. W. = Westinghouse Electric Co - Pennsylvania. This dilemmaseems to become particularly problematic for the British reenactors who after spending hundred of dollars on their kit accidentally purchase an American helmet because they dont know the difference, or for collectors who want one or the other represented in their collection. In August 1915 he acquired a patent for a steel helmet design of his own, one which could be produced from a single sheet of steel pressed into the first basic Brodie helmet. Fully restored with river gravel finis [1] Contents 1 Background Good, they are MK II lugs, so that puts it in theWW2 period. It it worth noting that while British servicemen were never issued with American helmets, American service men were issued British helmets. Kings Royal Rifle Corps who died 02/03/1915 YPRES (MENIN GATE) MEMORIAL Belgium ' JOHN THE BAPTIST, LAWRENCE AND ANN) CHURCHYARD United Kingdom ' dailyinfo[7]=' Lieutenant Thomas Sydney Ough DEALY Australian Flying Corps who died 07/03/1918 STONYHURST COLLEGE BURIAL GROUND United Kingdom ' Over the next nearly four years down to the end of the war in August 1945 over 22 million M1s were produced, either for use by America or its allies. Canucks? He was in standard active service but was injured in 1941/42 and it was then when he was positioned at Parliament. var day=mydate.getDay() WW2 British Army Staff Officers Cap and Collar Tabs. Thank you so much Leon i appreciate that , now i have all the info to keep, somehow i could never bear to part with these two gems , and they were both luck on finding as i was not looking for them in the first place, i just thought hey that's nice and bought them for my shelf , again thank you. He worked in Eastgate House, Exter. I'm posting them as quick as I can wrap them up, Haven't tweeted in a while. First questions and then the story. The M1 was only finally replaced as the standard issue military helmet for the United States armed forces in 1983, over forty years after it first entered mass production. Soldiers wearing the recently issued Brodie helmet on the Western Front, 1916 More details: NAM. Royal Navy who died 15/03/1917 CHATHAM NAVAL MEMORIAL United Kingdom ' 1-877-862-5245; Home; Contact; About Us; Why Top Pots; If it is red paint then I would agree with Colin that fire serviceis likely, perhaps even from an RAF base. dailyinfo[21]=' L/32287 Driver John Frampton GAZE "O" Bty. The Brodie helmet was designed by John Leopold Brodie, a Lithuanian entrepreneur and inventor who had first made his fortune working the gold and diamond mines of South Africa in the 1890s and 1900s and had then moved to Britain. The constant handling a helmet would receive in the field would compress the saw dust finish. L31cm x D29cm x H12cm. There is also a drill hole on rear of the brim. //-->, By 3rd Bn. Colloquially, it was called the shrapnel helmet, battle bowler, Tommy helmet, tin hat, and in the United States the doughboy helmet. Royal Marine Light Infantry who died 17/03/1918 BELLAVISTA OLD BRITISH CEMETERY Peru ' FOR SALE! dailyinfo[12]=' 457 Lance Corporal Arthur Price ROWE 2nd/7th Bn. A few have turned up with manufacture marks similar to those found on British shells A number of firms made P17s for the U.S. Military. Some American helmets tend to be a darker olive color, while others have paint identical to their British counter parts. dailyinfo[2]=' 8020 Serjeant Charles POOLE "C" Coy. 2nd Bn. Category. Here's how to install a American M17 helmet liner video part 1 and 2. engaged in defending high profile public building such as the Houses of Parliament. With New Vegas, I luckily was able to use the NCR Trooper Helmet, but there is no helmet like that in this game. I am pretty sure the ww2 helmet was worn protecting/ patrolling the British Houses of Parliament after he was injured in standard service. The American manufactures used an entirely different method to apply the paint to the helmets. Known Heat or Manufacturer Lot code Stamp Marks of M1917 shells. One of the main purposes of it was to essentially allow the head to breathe and sweat inside the steel cap. 100% refund policy on all items returned within 30 days. worked in or simply that he worked in a department in a parliamentary house, it's speculative at best I know ?. Indeed so functional was it and easy to manufacture that the Brodie was purchased by many other countries and the design was adapted by several other European states and even by the United States. dailyinfo[7]=' Lieutenant Thomas Sydney Ough DEALY Australian Flying Corps who died 07/03/1918 STONYHURST COLLEGE BURIAL GROUND United Kingdom ' . Welcome to the forum, is the red definitely paint? The Brodie was the first modern military helmet developed by Britain. It also is interesting that the British kept the Brodie Helmet while the US went to the M1 for better protection. There are 3 letters painted on the front i think it could be either one of these combinations: John Brodie designed the 'tin helmet' as worn in WW1, hence its name. var mydate=new Date() As the use of the helmet spread it became known by several other names, including the shrapnel helmet, the battle bowler (owing to its resemblance to a bowler hat), the Tommy helmet (owing to its employment by American troops), the tin hat and the doughboy helmet, doughboy being a widely used name for American infantrymen during the First World War. var dailyinfo= new Array(31) dailyinfo[8]=' 13277 Labourer Klaas NERO South African Native Labour Corps who died 08/03/1917 PUGU ROAD 1914-1918 MEMORIAL Tanzania ' These have some 115716872255 Canadian Railway Troops who died 18/12/1918 BUSIGNY COMMUNAL CEMETERY EXTENSION France GWF is free to use so please support the Forum Brodie Steel trench helmet Identification marks By Vimyridge I need your help to identify this helmet shell. Ones with three holes drilled over the ears on each side didn't pass quality . It was made of mild steel originally, but this was quickly dispensed with and a harder type of steel was introduced alloyed with manganese, a mixture known as Hadfield Steel after its developer, the English metallurgist, Sir Robert Hadfield.