So much more needs to be considered. but the composite chart provides the critical information of where a relationship is going and what are its advantages and disadvantages? The synastry can show the true about our relationship, and the Davison also but less than synastry, but the Composite chart can show almost nothing. To use Jeff Greens analogy, the ego believes it is an independent entity, but a developed ego is like a wave; it knows it is moving towards the shore, but it also knows that it will return to the ocean to which it belongs, the place of the Source or universal spirit. In composite we have north node in 12th. It might hold your answers, if you know how to read it properly. How does the 12th manifest when the planet is also conjunct the Asc? In reality, 12th house people tend to believe it doesn't matter what they do. It is not so much a question of choice, more that the universe has chosen for them to be together (at least, thats what it feels like). The November 9, 2012 astrologyanonymous27. .why is neptune conjunct sun so bad in composite? Our composite has a sun and north node in the 12 th house. Composite, Davison Chart . This resonates with me. venus all in the 12th house. Its pretty rare. The romantic nature of the past relationship is more emphasized which planets such as Venus, Mars, or Lilith in the twelfth house. But from the first moment I felt and I know he did as well this very big attraction to him. It confuses us, as is appropriate with a house that Neptune rules. how this would manifest? The relationship is a very private one, we share many trips together, and special 12th house retreat time together. We have had such a difficult relationship. Any advice would be helpful. But i ran of him, i really dont understand why, it makes me feel so sad. Just not what I wanted to hear. One or two aspects, especially in composite, do not carry the story. Saturn and Pluto and Ascedant. My sympathies. As the article says : this being the 12th, most of the time the lesson is learning to love and then let go. *And in Synastry- My Chiron RIsing (asc in Taurus) sits in his 12th house) His north node in his 12th in pisces which means he will have to travel from a more material existence to a spiritual one in his lifetime, but that could take another 20 years. Thank You very much for Your answer and very best regards from Hungary again! The attraction was instant. They usually experience issues with drugs or alcohol. Comparing composites to the biwheel between two charts is impossible, like comparing apples and oranges. The trauma you have experienced can be in relationships. IF THIS IS NOT A TRAGIC LOVE STORY THAN WHAT IS? There is probably some sort of inequality and that can be good for employee/employer or guru/student relationships. You're hypersensitive to energy and emotions in your environment, including the collective, if Chiron is in the 12th House. I was wondering about my composite contacts with some I know who we share 12th house themes with. in the 12th house, you might be safe in assuming that there was a marriage or long-term relationship in a past life. There is still a sense that anything can happen though, very unpredictable energy. Im afraid I cant get into it in this space (in the synastry course, we spend several lessons comparing the midpoint and Davison charts). what can we do here? Lilith square . Our Composite Sun, Mercury, Venus, Mars and Jupiter are in the 12th, Gemini. Im glad youre enjoying it. We also have Sun conjunct Saturn, Saturn trine Moon double whammy, Sun conjunct North Node double whammy, his venus conjunct my ascendant, My Mercury conjunct his ascendant, our moons conjunct in aries, Sun opposite Sun, Mercury opposite Mercury, and Venus opposite Venus, all within 3 degrees. Me and my friend have composite sun conj. Juno is also important. . Its part of me. Have you any thoughts or words to share on the 12th house commonalities we have individually, and what impact it lends to us as a couple? Women may stay because they think, how the heck am i going to find a man Im this connected to? The romantic synastric analysis is the interaction of houses between two birth charts. Youre writing is inspired. What do You think about Davison Chart? Transit Mercury in the 12th House Meaning, Transit Birth Chart, Mercury Astrology Free Interpretations . what kind of compassion do you think can be generated from a composite mars in 12th house? Hes Gemini sun . I had to spend years unlearning what love is to me and settle with how individuals differ in what we value in a relationship. Hi Dawn. All this seems to confirm your analyses of the other composite houses, as well. I thought that because of the 8th house or vertex, I forced him to confront his own dark side. The empty space you decribe has me under pressure most days. Our ascendant is also pisces but our Uranus-Venus opposite position makes lots of deals in our relationship besides the 12th and 6th house. Is this similar for composite ruler in 12th? The composite charts (both Davison and midpoint) need to be progressed. (We also have some 4th and 8th house synastry with me as the planet person, and 3 planets in the composite 4th). What if the composite chart has two strong stelliums: one is made up of the outer planets in the 12th, the other Sun/Mercy/Venus/Juno in the 10th (and moon and mars are in the 8th). I am a strong 12th houser myself and it meant so much to me that we could live together and I never felt my precious solitude was infringed upon. Haunting Beautiful article!! Written in 12thouse Neptunian mystique and eloquence This will tell you the energy sounding the ending. You have nailed my experience. We have Sun, Mercury, Venus, and Uranus in the 12th house in our composite chart. I dont know whether this situation is karma? It will revolve around sorrow, secrets, fantasies, hidden desires, emotions, and everything that belongs to our little secrets without physical forms. And it KILLS ME! Thank you Dawn for this very interesting article. Besides synastry, the twelfth house in a composite chart can also be telling when it comes to karmic relationships. As far as the four major asteroids are concerned, I find that house position is not as important as aspect. Please can someone find me some positive end result here because I have not too much hope after reading that article aboyt the 12 house and I am going insane because I can not really tell anyone what is going on in my life> (husband, kids or even him)I do not want to hurt anybodys life but that means I have to give up my love which is just to hurtful to do! Aspects to composite planets will fill in the details. do you have any clue of what this means or should i just ignore it? He is my best friend but marriage to him has been so disappointing because theres not much difference between now and when I was single. Indeed, I felt the fear trampling along the edge with fear of insecurity. It has left a hole in my heart, (composite chiron conjunct asc) and I suffered from insomnia regretting I should or shouldnt have done. I am a Sag with moon (12th house) and rising both in scorpio. Saturn in 6th or 12th house in composite chart: This is a strong healing or service oriented relationship and you will work hard together for those purposes. Outer planets have to do with things that are beyond our control. Once they have hammered out their imbalance (too little, too much is often a theme with the 12th) they must find a way to make something real of their inspiration. Thanks for taking the time to respond. This secrecy he is practising probably points to the venus-mars in composite twelfth ? The synastry can show the true about our relationship, and the Davison also but less than synastry, but the Composite chart can show almost nothing. Im sure your midpoint chart is valid if you had it read properly. However, when I examine our composite chart, I was shocked. We dont really grasp whats in the 12th until we spiritualize it, remove the ego from the planets function. I am in a very confused place myself right now, wanting to forgive, still loving her, but not understanding her and whether healing her childhood wounds will bring her attraction back, or if its got something more to do with me and something I need to let go of. I know this man will be in my life as long as I can imagine. and Ceres in Pisces in his 12th and all conjunct his lilith. Id appreciate any information. Composite Pluto in the 12th House With Composite Pluto in the 12th house, you may struggle over power and control in ways that aren't obvious. We have a Sun, Venus, Ceres, Node, Lilith and Fortune in 12th house. He seems very able to detach himself and move to the future. I just am hesitating. Its impossible to do one without composites or progressed composites. What is it that makes it work? My natal venus is in the 12 th house. Good luck. Everyone longs for melding and merging in relationship, but the truth is that separateness makes us interesting to one another. The 12th House is also known as the House of mystery while Venus symbolizes intuition and artful . You may keep your feelings for each other to yourselves, not feeling safe expressing them for whatever reason. Interesting description: it seems like weve followed ourselves around the country for each of our lives and not ever taking the time to learn about each other. Eventually, we learn that life is not as random as we thought, but full of purpose and meaning. 00 Angel Number, 00 Angel Number Twin Flame. However it can create a feeling of fate sometimes, since it's also the house of soulmates and psychic connections. Thanks so much Dawn. Unable to forget it? In the Davison, we have Saturn, Moon, Pluto, and Venus Conjunct in the 12th house. Neptune tries to tell us that we cant own anything permanently, and if we try to possess and not understand the message of universal love (love is its own reward) it will pry our grasping fingers off of whatever we are trying to hold on to. The fellow and I have composite sun/Mercury conjunct in the 12th, making an out of sign conjunction to the ascendant. The midpoint composite points out the places where the planets in the two charts manifest. Mine is conjunct with his moon. Bonus points if the Sun and Moon are conjunct. so we find the True in each other. Im from a country in southamerica. We grasp for the handrail, and find nothing to hold on to. The sixth and the eighth house are also karmic houses. I am very confused in everything in my life just because of him and the energies. We have met up a few times since then, but our feelings for each other were immediate and are exceptionally strong even without the benefit of an active physical relationship. you are right on target- although I forgot to mention that our trine is in 4th,8th and 12th you are an amazing teacher and your articales on your site have helped me tremendously. That was over three years ago. I like my husband as well after 20 years of marriage but I feel like I fell in this tragic love triangle story without asking for it! We are ignoring what the Source is asking us to do. I had a karmic relationship with a guy for 6 years which ended badly. We both experienced he physically (I think) something weird when i was very close to him and I saw something mind boggling in the night when Venus turned retrograde this year. As a 12th house person, I finally realized I enjoy the confusion. When transit Jupiter is in the composite 12th house, you may have more opportunities to come together behind the scenes, behind closed doors, when no one is watching, and in a professional relationship, this can be how you make lots of progress together. thank you for this article, im really having a hard time understanding the 12th house, as you concluded we all do.. and i dont know why, this last paragraph brought a tear to my eye.. because its so true, so well said. Youre a poet of poets. @ more very amazing thing IF this is still not enough proof: My Moon and Mars conjucts his North Node (fairly tight 2-3 degrees conjuction) His NOrth Node conjucts His own Pluto (good old Pluto might just kill me with his north node conjuction (i wonder if that is the plan here?) Something is whispering in their ears. I love him more than Ive ever loved any man I knew immediately. Two sides of the same coin. Is there something to be read from this cluster of planets in 12th house? If we do things out of fear or for security, and we dont listen to the call to step onto our proper path in life, we are serving the ego instead of the soul. Here Black Moon Lilith is squaring both Venus/Mars (12th house) and the Moon (6th house) - both the most difficult houses in the composite chart, indicating an unequal partnership. thank you for post! . Also my moon is conjuct to his sun both ways. I say empty.. no planet but Asteroid Osiris is 26 Aries. Thats for start. i have it conjunct in our davison3rd house- and opposite in4th-10th in composite. (Were married 16 years, and now we are old!) Oh wow, Im glad to be reading this after the fact. Sometimes walking around with him is just like being in a movie, which is funny because we ARE in a movie together- one he is making with his best friend. First of all, head to astro.com head to extended chart selection . This last chance element, sadly, often leads us to relationships that are destined to exist only to fix this thingwhen the lesson is learned, both these people move on. Is there nothing better to hope for? Are these water houses the culprits that keep pulling me back? On the one hand We are meant to be on the other, But if we are, why is it so hard?, When a couple has planets, or an important planet, in the 12th, it can go a couple of ways. Lilith in the Twelfth House of Astrology (Explained) June 3, 2022 by Wisdom Tavern. Jupiter Rx in the 7th in Leo. You have a strong synastry and a strong 1st house in the composite, and of course that makes a difference. We have Sun,mercury,venus and jupiter in 12th house virgo. With Libra in 12th House, your past life may not be that pleasant. Your article is amazing! We are both married similar age kids. Please forgive me, there are much to read and ask, Your inputs will be very much appreciated. Mars & NNode in Cancer/10th. My sun in the 3rd is squeezed in a T-square between Saturn in Pisces, in the 6th and Pluto/Uranus in Virgo, in the 12th. One, that planets energy can be confused and diffused in their lives, especially when in difficult aspect to other things in the composite. The composite chart with the man Im involved with has an extremely tight Moon/Mars conjunction in the 12th, along with the North Node. It has been a very long journey! "Composite Chart, Midpoint- method (2)". The empty space in Aries, would that be the outlet or where to focus all that energy? Ninety-three percent of her astro is in the 12th: the Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus, Lilith, Jupiter, Saturn, and Uranus. Its not special, its common. My 12 is in Leo, along with my Sun, Mercury, Mars and Pluto. I was immediately flooded with emotion- I realized all at once how intensely close to him I was and needed to know if he was ok, etc. However, the greatest truths will be revealed through periods of meditation and silence. People born with Chiron in the 12th house struggle with their psyche, spirituality, and vulnerability. Those of us with composite 12th emphasized will be asked to step away from the mundane and step into the world of the extraordinary, where unlikely connections are day to day things. My natal Venus conjuncts composite IC and his natal Mars conjuncts composite MC. Everything you said is so on point. VENUS IN HOUSE TWELVE Venus in the 12th house cultivates a spiritually profound form of love and a desire to experience love on a higher level. Moon in Aries/7th, Saturn in the 5th/Aquarius. It can also mean, in this case, unconscious elements making themselves known via the Ascendant in mysterious ways. A trauma might have triggered you before, making you a reserved person now. Then we hurt each other. Greetings. It often helps to work together on projects they find meaningful, or to spend some time doing community or charity work. Wow very insightful thank you so much, I love your writing!! The fourth house is . I cant stop the regretful feelings. I dont want to lose this relationship too so I would like to help me to find out the karmic lesson. I have 3 planets in my natal chart in 12th house (mercury,sun,mars) and we have 2 planets,which are identical in my natal(mercury and sun), in the composite chart in 12th house with someone who i talked for 6 months but we never dated.We also have our moon in pisces in 6th house. He says what on thinking. The lesson they teach is that we do not have to possess love in order to experience it. Sun and Neptune both trine Lilith, who is in Pisces AND in house 12. Struggling against our own unconscious is not an easy thing How that manifests depends on other aspects. What would you say about a composite Scorpio Juno in the 12th house, conjunct to the asteroid Valentine and squaring the north and south node? I still could love this man with his faults which I know he has but he is so caring and nice. This placement suppresses your deep subconscious a lot. We went through hell together, we loved each other, we saved each other, we saved others together, we could practically feel and read one another. Aghh! WhiteLotus. Thank you for this article. Thank you for reading and I hope this story helps reveal more about the 12th house in composites. Its a huge task, but often one the 12th house couple is uniquely suited for.]. The feelings I have for him, I feel, are something I just have to live with for the rest of my life. thanks Dawn! When transit Mars is in the composite 12th house, you may become aware of subconscious drivers and motivators in your relationship, and this can help you gain a better understanding of one another. In this relationship, you tend to agree to a no-obligation arrangement from the start. The point is not that the telepathy is an illusion, the point is that its real, but it doesnt matter. But there will be some crisis where they have to define their love and anchor it some useful purpose. along with Juno. Regine. What is the difference between Midpoint and Davison as Your opinion? In composite, we have sun, mercury and part of fortune in the 12th. In the end it was his choice to end it. My concern is a grand trine in the composite chart, Mercury/Jupiter/Venus all conjunct in the 1st (pisces) trine Moon/North node conjunct in the 5th (cancer) and Neptune the chart ruler in the 9th (Scopio). If I murdered this illusion, it would be like if I murdered my own soul ; I just cant . It was a complicated, intense, spicy hot love affair that changed both of our lives. We are still friends and well always love each other. But thank you for helping me face reality. One of my longest relationships featured a Lilith-Sun/Ascendant conjunction in synastry. Its a damn shame, but I cant make him more a more spiritual person, just because our powerful connection together is deep and spiritual.
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